Interview
With Lennie Peterson of The Big Picture (part
one)
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about this interview!
Many
people have asked me, how did you land an interview with Lennie
Peterson? Well, it was actually kind of simple. I asked him. But
that's not really the whole story... Why Lennie Peterson? Why
interview him? What's so great about his strip The Big Picture?
Well, I'll tell you why and how.
It all
started about a year ago. I took a break from art for about 3
to 4 years and got into computers. I was really starting to itch
to get back into drawing and doing cartoons again and I wanted
to get a strip going. I was reading this strip online called "The
Big Picture" of course it was created by Lennie Peterson.
I really liked the strip and decided to send him an email praising
his strip and asking for some insight on getting back into cartooning.
Well he sent me a LONG winded response about what I could
do, books I could buy, etc. So I started on my long trip to get
back into what I loved to do, cartooning.
After
I started The Normal
Guy on the internet, it made me remember that time when I
asked Lennie about cartooning and the advice he gave me. I mean,
he was the motivation I needed, the kick in the butt I needed,
to get started again, and I'm loving every minute of it. So I
decided to send him another email thanking him for what he has
done. I wasn't really expecting a response, I was just hoping
he'd read it and make his day a little better knowing that he's
helped someone. Well, he did respond, and we started exchanging
emails. He looked at my site, gave me some words of encouragement
and I asked him for an interview. That's how it happened! He agreed
and here we are. Anyway, enough of my babbling, here's the good
stuff.
By the
way, to learn more about Lennie, his strip, or his band, here's
some helpful links:
-- ucomics.com -- His syndication.
They run several strips that can be emailed to you everyday, including
The Big Picture, Garfield, Fox Trot... just to name some of my
favorites.
-- Planet Lennie --
His website where you can find information on The Big Picture,
his band, or his other art work that he has for sale!
Part
One
J. R. -- Just mostly to start things off. I'd like
you to describe your comic and what it's about to our readers,
several of whom may have never read your strip, feel free to be
as elaborate as you wish.
Lennie
-- well. right to the point, the strip is completely autobiographical.
it's not only about stuff that happens to me, it actually IS
me. i look, talk, act like and am that person in the strip. stoopid
cat and all. i try to treat my strip as sort of a "look in the
mirror" . seeing the humor in everyday situations of living life
from getting dumped by a girlfriend to getting older to drinking
a morning coffee. every comic strip creator takes material from
their own lives obviously but, in my case, it's stuff that happens
to me directly. i am the guy. i'm not making stuff up for "fluffy
the comic strip puppy" to do. when things happen in my life, they
go straight into the comic strip and show up in the newspaper
4 weeks later.
J.
R. -- How long have you been drawing? Was it something you've
always wanted to do?
Lennie
-- i honestly can't remember not drawing and not only is it
something i've always "wanted" to do, but i do it because i can't
help it.
J.
R. -- How long has The Big Picture been in syndication and
how long did you do it before it became syndicated?
Lennie
-- i was doing the big picture on a monthly basis first for
an underground publisher of comic books here in boston aboout
seven years ago. it was called "daily diary' back then. i found
it a really great outlet so i decided to try to see if i could
sell it on a weekly basis to some local weekly alternative newspapers.
after about two years, i had only snagged about 6 or 7 papers
because i really didn't have the time and energy to throw myself
into it that far because i was still teaching at berklee [college
of music] full time. but i really enjoyed doing a strip so i started
submitting ideas for other strips because i didn't think "the
big picture", as it was, was "mainstream" enough for syndication.
the vice president of universal press syndicate, lee salem, took
notice of the big picture after it had won a "best unsigned comic
strip" competition through a magazine so he contacted me. it took
awhile, but they finally decided to take the plunge which was
great obviously. they arranged to get a book published of all
the strips i had done weekly [the big picture; a comic strip collection-published
by andrews/mccmeel] and that led to the daily syndication. i've
been doing the strip in daily syndication for about 16 months
or so. i'm just a baby in those terms. the strip as a daily is
just over a year old.
J.
R. -- I've been reading The Big Picture for a little over
a year now and have noticed it increasing in readership and becoming
more and more popular. How many readers does The Big Picture have
and how many newspapers does it appear in? Does The Big Picture
get printed internationally as well?
Lennie
-- i don't really keep track of how many papers i'm in. it
builds each week a little at a time which is really cool. i think
it's probably around a hundred right now but i'd have to check.
the numbers don't interest me all that much though. as far as
the overseas markets, i have a few papers in europe but most of
my overseas readership is a result of the internet both from on-line
news services like bayarea.com
or a result of the fans that check in at ucomics.com
to read the comics there.the book has done pretty well there,
too, so that helps gain new fans. there's a company in sweden
that publishes the strip in swedish. that's a real trip for me
to see it in swedish. i do well in canada as well. the toronto
sun has been really good for me.
J.
R. -- I first heard about The Big Picture on the internet,
our newspapers here don't print it. How big of an influence do
you think the internet has to your to your strip and how many
readers do you believe read it online (such as I do)? Do you contribute
some of the success to your comic to the web or not?
Lennie
-- the internet has been the most valuable tool for the big
picture i can think of. right friom the start. even before my
book got published, universal
press put my strip on their website just to kind of test out
whether people would like it or not and it turned out to be one
of their most popular features. of the mail i get every week,
i'd say about half of it comes from people on the web. and that
leads to them rallying their local papers for me so yeah..god
bless the world wide web!!
J.
R. -- Being on the Internet topic let's move to just webcomics
in general. What are your feelings of webcomics (such as The
Normal Guy)? Do you feel webcomics are the wave of the future
or do you feel printed comics will hold their ground? Do you ever
read webcomics, or are they something the "syndicated artists"
don't think about or read? Do you think syndicated comics will
have to move to the web to survive? Such as several strips I read
have done (The Big Picture,
Garfield, Pickles,
heck you can even read Calvin
and Hobbes on the net)
Lennie
-- all the comics i read, i read on the web everyday. calvin
and hobbes reruns included. i've customized my own bookmarks so
i can go first thing in the morning, coffee in hand and read all
my comics. the only time i read the comics in the newspaper are
when i'm a way from my computer and on sundays. i enjoy the sunday
comics hard copy. it's a sacred ritual for me. i don't DISlike
reading the dailies in the paper. it's just like anything else,
the computer is more connvenient. plus, they're in color every
day. i read the paper too but my first dose of comics every day
are on the internet. i think the internet is the perfect medium
for comic strips. they're layed out perfectly for a quick hit
and animation is the next logical step to all of this. i think
the printed page will just change in its dynamic. the papers are
just going to have to get used to sharing the readership. and
ultimately, the competition will make for better more exciting
newspapers hopefully geared toward a younger readershoip. the
papers need to do that.
J.
R. -- I noticed in your strip everyday that in the spacing
between panels you always have a birthday wish to someone, I thought
this was kind of neat and interesting. When did you start doing
this and why? (By the way, my birthday is April 28th)
Lennie
-- ha! sorry. i have to wait until you're a celebrity or a
family member! i get requests from people everyday to have their
names in. if i started to do that, i'd be leaving out a half dozen
people a day. i've been doing the celebrity and family birthdays
since i started the strip as a weekly. i just think it's a nice
little touch for the people who are REALLY paying attention
to the details. just a nice little extra touch for the readers
that give a crap. for me, this is all about the readers that give
a crap.
J.
R. -- You have a band called "Clutch Grabwell" that you work
with on the side of drawing The Big Picture. Can you tell our
readers about your band, what type of music, and where you play?
Also do you have any music samples available to download to listen
to? Plus where can we find more information on your band or buy
your albums?
Lennie
-- clutch grabwell is a band that's best described, as it
was by the boston globe, as a "maniacal, horn driven, high energy
rock band".we work every weekend and then some. it's mostly original
music and it's fun and crazed from start to finish, every gig.
we play mostly in new england but we get to california and new
york more and more these days. i think there are soundbites available
at our website, grabwell.com.
the c.d. is available in northeast stores and you can order it
through cdbaby.com and a couple
of others. i think there are links on our site.
J.
R. -- Also I noticed you have Prints for sale and also original
strips. Where may the readers find more information on this and
how much do they sell for?
Lennie
-- i've been wanting to update that section of my site for
awhile. i've gotta do that soon. the best thing to do is go to
planetlennie.com and
check out the "fine
art" section of the site. the site will guide you to the purchase
of original strips as well. original strips sell for about a hundred
bucks apiece and my fine art prints sell anywhere from 50 to 200
bucks. i don't sell the originals of my fine art, just prints.
they mean too much for me to let go of the originals. the nice
thing about all the sales of my work is i give about 20% of the
revenue to various charities so that makes it worhwhile for me
as well.
J.
R. -- I know you do a lot of charity type work and donating.
If I'm correct you give 20% of your sales to charity. What charities
are these that you give to and why do you give to them? Also where
can we find more information on these charities?
Lennie
-- thanks for asking. 10% of the revenue goes to a charity
called "why me, inc" which is a charity that helps kids with cancer
and their families. people can check that out at www.whyme.org.
it's a great organization. i run a benefit for them every year
with a bunch of bands.. it's great because it's one of those charities
where the money goes directly to helping out the kids. i donate
another 5% to to the prevention of cruelty to animals and another
5 to greenpeace.
J.
R. -- I know you probably get many emails a day about The
Big Picture. and I know you reply to every single email you get.
About how many emails do you get a day? And about how many of
those are hate emails?
Lennie
-- i do reply to every single email i get but unfortunately
that's getting more and more difficult as the strip grows in popularity
so i don't know how much longer i can keep that up. i really love
staying in touch with my readers and, as i said, it's all about
the reader for me. right now i get an average of 20 emails a day
from readers to keep up with. that, along with the snail mail
and the mail having to do with the usual running of the businesses,
gets a little wacky now and then. depending on the content of
the strip that day, it can reach 50 or so. i make a lot of my
hate mail in the strip but honestly, i get very little negative
mail but i like to exploit what i do get. people have been really
great. i'm blown away almost daily by the mail that people send
and how they can relate to my strip. i really do the strip for
me. the fact that people enjoy it is gravy, hell, the fact that
people HATE it is gravy. as long as they're feeling SOMEthing!
J.
R. -- Speaking of emails, when did you get the idea to do
the "email Monday strip"? This is one of my most favorite strips
I look forward to every week. How do you determine which emails
you are going to use for the strip? Do you do it on a weekly basis
or just save emails that you wish to respond to in your strip?
Lennie
-- this is my favorite part of the strip as well. in fact,
i'm going to start a"catching up on the mail" feature every six
weeks or so and do an entire weeks worth of that feature. i keep
a file of the emails i get that i think i can use in the future
then just kind of sift through those to see which one kind of
stands out for that particular week. i have hundreds of them on
file so i just go for the first one that stands out.
J.
R. -- I know it really bugs you when people ask why you're
cat isn't the main character (as I can see why) but I've noticed
a lot lately that your cat HAS been the main focus in your strip.
I was just curious if you were gonna start using your cat more
and more as the main focus or if it was just something you'd do
for a while to do something different until you thought of "Lennie"
material?
Lennie
-- ha! good question. that's a random thing. i'm not that
well thought out! you'll notice that she sometimes isn't the subject
of the strip for a long time and then will be for awhile. the
one change i've made is that i always try to have her present
in the strip whether it revolves around her or not. i like to
have her "there" when i can.
J.
R. -- Has the Big Picture ever won any awards?
Lennie.
-- the lennie peterson award- dopiest comic strip, 2001. seriously,
one so far, and that's the one, "best unsigned comic strip" that
led to my book and syndication.
J.
R. -- I've noticed you use Garfield a lot in your strip every
once in a while. Are you friends with Jim Davis or do you know
him personally? Do you have to call him up every time you use
his character? I was just curious on the relationship since he
IS practically my idol and has been my whole life.
Lennie
-- i don't know jim davis personally but we are with the same
syndication. i admire the garfield work as well. a lot of people
think it's become stale after 20 years but i disagree. i think
it still holds up. if it started brand new tomorrow, it would
still work. a lot of times i HOPE it will suck just cuz
i consider him a competition but it always holds up. i do use
a lot of other comic strip characters in my strip but i don't
get permission. if it was something negative toward those characters,
i'd have to get permission but parody usually is a loophole in
the use of other images. plus i always give them copyright credits
in the margins. i'll get in trouble eventually but, whatever.
J.
R. -- I've also noticed how Garfield gets a lot of "bad talk"
lately, I noticed in your FAQ section of your website that you
said "Yes I still like Garfield, sue me". I'm kind of confused
on why people wouldn't like Garfield. do you know the whole story
about it and if so could you explain it to the rest of us?
Lennie
-- i think that a lot of people just start to go against the
grain on something when it's been around too long or it's "too
popular". it's pretty easy to bash stuff that successful. sort
of the "conformity of being a non-conformist". plus, garfield
has become a huge, huge industry. maybe people see that as kind
of "manufactured" and pre fab. as i said, i read and enjoy it
everyday along with a lot of others.
J.
R. -- My last question for part one of the interview is mostly
about my website and my comic, The
Normal Guy. What is your opinion on the comic, please feel
free to criticize the art, writing, anything you can. As an artist
yourself you should know how important something like this is
as it can only make the artist being criticized better at what
he does. Also it's important to me because it will be coming from
a professional already in the business (which not everyone can
say they've had done).
Lennie
-- dood, i like your strip a lot. first of all, the art is
"clean" and fits the style of your writing which, to me , is one
of the most important qualities in any art form including film
making. there's not a whole lot of stuff cluttering up your art
(unlike mine at times!) which makes for a lot of good "space".
it's well written and, as you know, my favorite art forms are
those that draw (oops, pun...) on personal experiences directly.
plus i feel like "the normal guy" and it's layout and bold colors
are a perfect suit for the internet read. plus you get to say
the word "sucks" so i'm a little jealous. my one criticism is
that your dialogue can be, in a few strips here and there, a bit
too lengthy and rambling but you might not want to take that advice
froom me because, more often than not, my dialogue is VERY
lengthy and rambling. it's a lifetime of self editing and saying
more with less and working at that every day. i'm not interested
in readers that have the attention span of a toaster and certainly
don't want my strip to be "sight gags" but, then again, i try
to understand that not every reader is going to put the time into
reading my strip that i want them to. other that that, this business,
as is ANY business, is a matter of persistence, persistence
and then more persistence...eat, drink, sleep, poop persistence.
so keep it up.
J.
R. -- Well, that ends it this week. Stay "tooned"
next week as I'll have part 2 of the interview up! Next week me
and Lennie talk about the syndication process and other general
syndication questions! And the look at the future of cartooning!
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